Cow’s Excreta as Medicine: Insult to Humanity

Written by October 4, 2008 3:53 am 135 comments

The cow is, at the least, an animal domesticated by man for help in agricultural activities.[1]  Although the mighty machines now used in farming have made these animals irrelevant in agriculture, valiant attempts are being made, at least in India, to preserve the exalted position of the so called ‘second mother’ [2] or even ‘mother of the world’ [3,4].

The stringent agitations to protect the ‘cow-mother’ [4,5] and even riots and murders of dalits for the sake of the cow,[6,7] suggest that the human life is far less important than a dead cow in this part of the world.[7] This extraordinary reverence for the cow has led to the development and marketing of many ‘products’ made from the secretions and excretions of the cow, with claims that these products may be more ‘lucrative’ than even the dairy.[8]

‘Cow Products’

The list of ‘products’ developed from the milk and excreta of the cow is quite long. Panchagavyaand cow urine distillate (gau arka) are the most quoted of these preparations.

Panchagavya is a blend of five (pancha) products obtained from the cow (gavya = from gau) – the dung, urine, milk, ghee and curd.[9,10] Three preparations of cow’s urine, namely gau-mutra asav (fermented preparation), gau-arka (or distillate) and Ganavati (or tablet) are also used as medicines.[8,11] Two US patents have also been obtained for the gau -arka [11] and this fact has been highlighted over and over again.

Various products from the cow have been suggested as a successful remedy against more than hundred diseases, from fever to cancer.[8,11,12] Panchagavya is most reverentially used as a ‘body and soul cleanser’, following the birth or death of a family member. It has also been suggested as a medicine and more profusely as a pesticidal spray for plants and as a soil enriching manure.[10]

Very recently, panchagavya has been suggested as a remedy for chikungunya as well.[13] Cow’s urine has been used in the preparations of hair oil, shampoo, skin cream etc.[8] Preparations like soap, nasal powder, body powder, body cream, incense sticks, tooth powder etc. have been prepared from the cow dung and recommended for medical use[8]. Probably to add sanctity to the entire gamut of these ‘medications’, it has been claimed that Indian pure breed cows have ‘immunology power’ from 90% to 98% while the cows of mixed breed have less than 40%.[11]

The ‘evidence':

Curious to know about Panchagavya, I asked an Ayurveda physician about its utility. She briefed me about all the virtues of the gau mutra (cow’s urine), gau maya (cow dung) and Panchagavya, quoting the Charaka Samhita. But how can we, living in the 21st century,  rely on an ancient text to justify the use of these excreta, I wondered. All these have been well studied by Charaka, she told me. May be, but the concept of biochemical molecules (and the modern biochemical analysers) and of microbes (and the means of isolating them) were non-existent during Charaka’s time, I countered. But the cow’s urine hasn’t changed since Charaka’s time, she averred. I was dumbstruck!

Most articles on the virtues of cow’s excreta extensively quote from scriptures and the Charaka Samhita. Here are some of these arguments:

  • The cow is our mother and we are her children. Therefore cow urine is beneficial.[8,11]
  • Diseases are caused by imbalance of elements bile, mucous and air and cow urine balances elements.[8]
  • Amongst urines, cow urine is best.[8]
  • Ganga resides in the cow urine and it contains copper and gold salts, which are elixirs. It does not decay, older the cow urine, the more useful it is.[8]

Recently a lot has been written about the patents for cow urine; one obtained on the basis of laboratory studies (on culture plates and cell lines) on the usefulness of cow urine distillate in enhancing the efficacy of antibiotics and anti cancer drugs, [14,15] and the other patent obtained for cow urine therapy.[16] There are reports of the use of cow’s urine therapy from Myanmar [17] and of a cow’s urine concoction used as a traditional remedy for convulsive seizures in Nigeria.[18] There have also been reports of studies on the cow’s urine distillate in gouty arthritis, lymphocyte and polymorphonuclear cells and carbon tetrachloride poisoning, all done on experimental animals in small numbers.[19-22] These results have been extrapolated freely and wild conclusions have been drawn about the ‘magical powers’ of the cow’s urine in treating almost all the diseases afflicting mankind today.[14,17] Even the Department of Animal Husbandry of the Ministry of Agriculture, Government of India, has published reports that seek to promote the marketing of cow’s urine as a therapeutic agent.[23]

The facts:

Faced with this blitzkrieg of marketing of cow’s urine and the real danger that cow’s urine and other products of cow’s excreta may be pushed into the throats of hapless patients, with active support from the govt., agencies., it is time we look into the facts.

One need not go far to see the hypocrisy of the ‘cow urine promoters’ than have a look at the ayurveda texts themselves, extensively quoted as the primary source of support for the utility of cow’s urine as a therapeutic agent. All three major ancient texts of ayurveda, by Charaka (1st-2nd century), Susruta (3rd –4th century) and Vagbhata (7th century) mention of the therapeutic uses of beef[24,25] as well, but this fact is no where mentioned by the proponents of cow’s urine. Eating beef is a sin and drinking cow’s urine or eating its dung brings health, if these self-styled guardians of ancient Indian tradition are to be believed.

What about the much touted patents for cow’s urine? A patent is a set of exclusive rights granted by a state to an inventor to prevent or exclude others from making, using, selling, offering to sell or importing the invention.[26] Nothing more, nothing less. A patent in itself cannot be the proof for the utility of any product. It is hardly surprising that while International patents have been registered for cow’s urine and its products, no such patent has been obtained from the Govt. of India. An Indian patent may not make enough and weighty news, but an international patent, on the other, helps to claim that even ‘foreigners’ have accepted the virtues of cow’s urine!

All the studies available in the literature about the therapeutic efficacy of cow’s excreta are small studiesconducted in the labs and on animals or tissues. There are no reports of any controlled, double blind clinical studies in humans, other than some anecdotal reports and claims by the practitioners of ‘cow therapy’ and all these so called claims of research appear dubious by any scientific standards.[27] Most of these papers contradict their own claims: the claims made about the gold and copper salts in urine, for example, are not supported by the data provided by the protagonists themselves.[8,28]

Urine is urine, the liquid waste that is filtered by the kidneys and excreted through the urinary system. It contains many solutes and biological products that are unnecessary for the living body and hence excreted and also some substances secreted by the urinary tract to facilitate this excretion. Chemical constituents of human and animal urine are almost alike.[28,29] For example, Urokinase is an enzyme secreted into the urine to prevent its clogging; today, it is extracted from human urine and used to dissolve clots in the coronary arteries in patients who suffer a heart attack.[30] Does this justify drinking one’s own urine in case of a heart attack? Far from it.

Is cow’s urine safe for mankind? There are reports of severe adverse effects, even fatal, of drinking cow urine concoctions, further supported by experimental evidence.[31] Cow’s urine can also be a source of infectious diseases, especially leptospirosis, [32] that can spread through oral mucosa. The claim that cow’s urine and cow dung have antiseptic properties is not only baseless, but also dangerously misleading. While cow dung (and all fecal matter) is teeming with bacteria excreted from the intestines, several bacteria have been isolated from Panchagavya too.[33,34] Application of these bacteria-rich excreta onto wounds may lead to life threatening sepsis. Only those who are absolutely ignorant about such facts can daringly market cow’s excreta as antiseptics, but the tragedy is that some practitioners of modern medicine, blinded by their faiths in their ‘spiritual heads’ or ‘Mathadhipathis’ also appear to support such nonsense.

Conclusions:

It is clear that cow’s urine and other excreta are only the waste products rejected by the animal’s body and are similar to the excreta of other animals and therefore, there is absolutely no reason why the cow’s urine or other excreta should be venerable over those of humans beings or other animals.

The claims of the efficacy of cow’s excreta (and their products) in the treatment of almost every disease are not supported by any evidence and there are no clinical trials reported on the use of these products in human beings. With reports available about the possible adverse effects of the use of cow’s excreta, it is shocking that such products are being allowed to be not only marketed but also trumpeted, even supported by the agencies of the govt. of India, as the ‘cure-for-all’ wonder drugs.

Propaganda regarding the utility of cow’s excreta largely emanates from the obscurantist and Hindu fundamentalist forces and appears to be designed to condemn the ordinary human beings into ingesting cow’s excreta under the alibi of ‘treatment’ and ‘long life’. This is not surprising at all, given the several instances of the down trodden dalits forced into eating even human excreta by the same fundamentalists.[35]

Eulogising the cow (and not buffalo and other cattle that are equally ‘useful’) as ‘second mother’, ‘God mother’, ‘mother of the world’ etc., largely because it provides milk,[11] (and hopefully not because of its excreta) raises a fundamental question about the concept of motherhood itself: Do we love and respect our own mothers solely because we have been breastfed and is motherhood only about milk?

This entire exercise of marketing the cow’s products and promising huge economic benefits (a claim not supported by any data) of keeping the cows even after they have passed the age of secreting milk  is part of the grand design to prevent the slaughtering of the cows so as to deprive the poor sections of the society from quality meat as well as some economic benefits of marketing the beef. But sustaining the livestock is proving to be very costly for the environment, with a large share of global warming attributed to the livestock.[36,37] It is time we take a rational view of all the issues involved.

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  • Dear Srinivas, I alway appreciate the questioning of some concepts by some one so that the good comes out. This churning shall always brings out butter. As you have told that there is no evidence on the safety and efficacy of the gomutra arka. In the process of drug discovery the experiments on animals give lot of information on the safety and efficacy of drugs. Similarly in the patents granted to go-mutra arka, the patents applicants have submitted that the dosage of gomuthra is fixed scientifically. For fixing the dose one has to conduct toxicity studies (both acute and chronic) on the animals. Only if any drug passes the toxicity studies then only dose is fixed by scientific way i.e. maximum of 1/4th of the maximum tolerable dose or by finding out ED 50 values. The animal experiments have proved that aqueous fraction of gomuthra arka is safer and efficacious in enhancing the bioavailability many molecules/drugs ranging from simple molecules to anticancer drugs. In addition to this I had gone through the records presented by one Dr. Piyush Mishra (an Ayurvedic practioner and incharge of Jaipur goshal run multi facility hospital) of Jaipur Goshala. In that records he had shown that he had treated 1200 patients with renal damage. The clinical examination before and after treatment with gomuthra have indicated that the renal functioning has been improved in most of the cases he has treated. All the documents presented in a conference in Nagpur in the year 2004 was authenticated by doctors who were treating the patients earlier. Even he has presented one of his patients in the conference also.

    One of my teacher Dr. S. Ramachandra Setty, who is also honarary research director in Swami Vivekananda holistic health and research center had informed me that he has data of six patients who were suffering from the HIV. After combined with eliminative naturopathy with gomuthra arka for three months the quality of life of those six full blown AIDS patients has improved and all associated infections like TB, Maleria, etc., started responding to the respective treatment. Those patients were observed at regular intervals for about 12 months. In addition to this several researhcers are claiming the utility of gomuthra arka by conducting scientific experiments.

    Though the official clinical trails including doubli blind studies is not conducted, the clinical data available and claims of several ayurvedic practioners are indicating the same. Similarly the gomuthra has been used in Ayurvedic system of medicine since the ages for several purposes.

    In addition there is one more interesting research is going on that the treatment with Gomuthra and go milk removes the toxicity of Nux vomica seeds. The results of this research has yielded wonderful information on the ancient knowledge of detoxification process called Shodhana process (Due to some patenting reasons I am not disclosing the data in detailed here).

    There are no strong evidences against the usage of gomuthra arka or pancha gavya. If patients are happy and if they feel that the quality of life of them have been improved by gomuthra, then there is no need to orgue against them. It seems your objection is against commercialisation of gomuthra marketing and usage of gumuthra concept by hindu fundamentalists. But I am of the opinion that we can not oppose a good treatment concept on the grounds that it will be misused. Similarly one can not totally oppose the concepts of Ayurveda on the grounds that it has not bee filtered through modern scientific methods. It has to be viewed from its own scientif basis not by wearing the glassed of Allopathic system of medicines. Therefore instead of opposing on the grounds that it is misused, if it is useful and being time tested why con’t we open mindedly accepted the time tested concepts of Ayurveda.

    I hope you will accept the scientific data in this regard.

  • Very interesting. Let the research go on. But any research must follow some basic principles of scientific study and two important ones are the ability to stand peer review and reproducibility when someone else performs the same study. While going through your comments, I did not find any references to such peer review. I request the ‘scientists’ to submit their work to some reputed, modern scientific journals and get the work reviewed. Any drug needs to undergo a double blind trial to take care of the factor called chance. Without such a study, it is difficult to attribute the benefits or otherwise solely to the drug. And it is naive and dangerous to suggest that ayurveda formulations need not undergo rigorous tests; in that case, anything can be marketed as an ayurveda drug. And if so much useful, why can’t the ayurveda drugs stand the scrutiny of simple scientific studies?

    So the request is simple: Conduct meticulous, double blind, randomised, multicentric, large scale studies of all products of the cow’s excreta, get the results peer reviewed and published in some modern journals and then start marketing the products. Scientific methods are universal and simple, and they do not mean allopathic methods. Allopathy, incidentally, subscribes to these scientific methods and we wish that ayurveda too would.

    And we are opposing cow’s excreta due to reasons cited here above and not merely because it is supported by the Hindutva brigade. Incidentally, the Hindutva brigade does not care about evidence, truth, facts etc., on anything that they talk about.

    • Chemical description of cow urine as per modern concepts and cure of diseases accordingly.

      Table – Chemical contents of cow urine and cure of diseases as per them.
      S. No. Name of chemical Effect of chemical on diseases
      1. Nitrogen N2 ,NH2 Removes blood abnormalities and toxins, Natural stimulant of urinary track, activates kidneys and it is diuretic.
      2. Sulphur S Supports motion in large intestines. Cleanses blood.
      3. Ammonia NH3 Stabilizes bile, mucous and air of body. Stabilizes blood formation.
      4. Copper Cu Controls built up of unwanted fats
      5. Iron Fe Maintains balance and helps in production of red blood cells & hemoglobin. Stabilizes working power.
      6. Urea CO(NH2)2 Affects urine formation and removal. Germicidal.
      7. Uric Acid C5H4N4O3 Removes heart swelling or inflammation. It is diuretic therefore destroys toxins.
      8. Phosphate P Helps in removing stones from urinary track.
      9. Sodium Na Purifies blood. Antacid
      10. Potassium K Cures hereditary rheumatism. Increases appetite. Removes muscular weakness and laziness.
      11. Manganese Mn Germicidal, stops growth of germs, protects decay due to gangrene.
      12. Carbolic Acid HCOOH Germicidal, stops growth of germs and decay due to gangrene.
      13. Calcium Ca Blood purifier, bone strengthener, germicidal, ?? Rakta skandak ??
      14. Salt NaCl Sanyas vishamta ?? decreases acidic contents of blood, germicidal
      15. Vitamins A,B,C,D,E Vitamin B is active ingredient for energetic life and saves from nervousness and thirst, strengthens bones and reproductive ingredient for energetic life and saves from nervousness and thirst, strengthens bones and reproductive power.
      16. Other Minerals Increase immunity
      17. Lactose C6H12O6 Gives satisfaction. Strengthens Mouth, strengths heart, removes thirst and nervousness.
      18. Enzymes Make healthy digestive juices, increase immunity
      19. Water (H2O) . It is life giver. Maintains fluidity of blood, maintains body temperature
      20. Hip uric Acid CgNgNox . Removes toxins through urine
      21. Creatinin C4HgN2O2 Germicidal.
      22. Aurum Hydroxide AuOH It is germicidal and increases immunity power. It is highly antibiotic and anti-toxic

      • Srinivas Kakkilaya

        Can you please provide some references for these claims? Can I say that Cow’s urine also contains gold and diamonds?

        • Dear sir,
          I shared something I learnt by my own experiences and in fact these chemical effect are proved by allopathy.I am open minded i am ready to learn from you also .I have some question.where are the worlds most dangerous bacteria’s are found and what is the cause of increased resistance power?

          • Srinivas Kakkilaya

            Dear Rohit, All I have asked is the refernce (author, title, journal name,year, vol, issue, page no) for this statement of yours
            >>in fact these chemical effect are proved by allopathy.<<

            Have I said anywhere that only what I know is knowledge? I want to learn from you, so please give me the reference

        • Does this mean all that you know is knowledge and what other say is useless.I have posted some question .Sir please answer those questions.hope i can learn something new

  • This is a great response, Srinivas. I had read the previous comment and was going to ask just one thing from the previous commenter.

    “Can you provide double-blind studies that have been published in peer-reviewed journals, so that we can all look at the data?”

    But you have already taken care of that question!

  • Srinivas, Excellent article, its common sense that urine is a waste product. But blind believers like poster paramesh are an example of close mindedness as a result of early indoctrination into the supernatural. Sad but true. And your response to the other poster on the “science” is excellent. Charlatans.

  • Ancient teachings or texts does not automatically mean knowledge. The body of knowledge in modern times is obviously far ahead of ancient texts ( when very few humans lived past age 25 !) which are vague interpretations and full of semantics trying to make sense of the world. Scientific discovery is a continuous process and the only way ahead.

  • It’s unfortunate to note that you don’t have strong data to prove your fact as well. In fact you are self styled.
    Also you seem to be stupid, because otherwise you wouldn’t talk about grand-design in the conclusion (since there is no proof of that). It seems you have a propaganda of going against things rather than being scientific.

    No scientist/researcher would quote wikipedia, since the content is not peer reviewed, nor does it remain the same in a couple of days after you publish.

    I agree that in the past scientific method was probably not practiced in determining usefulness of cow products for medicine. The same is true about this article: no scientific work. Your conclusion that, animal excreta cannot be useful as a medicine is totally unqualified. You have no results to prove that. Experiment on mice doesn’t necessarily prove for humans/cows as well.

    “Do we love and respect our own mothers solely because we have been breastfed and is motherhood only about milk?” is totally unrelated to the topic in question. There’s no reason why one shouldn’t honor the cow as mother after drinking its milk. And only a crooked mind can think that doing so would demean mother!

    In conclusion, this article is worth discarding because it’s not a product of a passionate researcher but of a goof who wants to oppose things for the sake of it.

    • Srinivas Kakkilaya

      With all your posturing and expletives, you have chosen to respond to this stupid, goofed up piece! Great!!

      >>Your conclusion that, animal excreta cannot be useful as a medicine is totally unqualified. You have no results to prove that. <<
      Do YOU have any results to show that excreta can be used as medicine/s? If yes, show them. If there are no such data, then it is clear that animal excreta cannot be used as medicines. If you show me evidence to the contrary, I will change my stand.

      Do you have data to show that a cow is very much equal to man's mother? And to give equal respect – huh! Why not a goat, a camel, a buffalo or a yak whose milk are also consumed by humans? Why are they not equal to a human mother? Why are their urines and shits not sacred and medicinal?

  • faith heals.
    more the faith, more the healing.

    it is not the Cow urine that heals.
    it is the faith of the person taking it that heals him.

    • Srinivas Kakkilaya

      Faith in what? The Cow or its urine?

      • kuldeep singh

        Faith arising from belief that cow urine heals.

        • Srinivas Kakkilaya

          Ho! So it doesn’t help the ones without faith! What about modern medicines? Do they heal the faithless?

          • kuldeep singh

            What can I say?
            I have seen people getting well on modern medicine irrespective of their faith.
            I have personal example where my three year old chronic joint pains, on which modern medicine had no effect, were healed when I made a prayer for forty days to my God.

            How do we understand what heals? We can only say that modern medicine is mostly effective and it might become even more effective if supplemented by faith. I think this faith business needs more research rather than being discarded as religious mumbo-jumbo.
            What if it really works?

          • A couple of quick questions:

            1. Have you heard of the placebo effect? Do you know that most modern medicines must only do a small percentage better than the placebo effect to be accepted?

            2. Do you do or read up double blind studies of every medicine you prescribe or do you put your *faith* in what medical representatives tell you?

            Thanks. Just curious how a “rationalist” practices medicine…

  • Srinivas Kakkilaya

    1. There are better and safer placebos than cow’s urine, even if it acts so.
    2. I do not rely on anything from representatives and I do not attend any lunches/dinners/meetings/conferences hosted/supported by drug cos. There are enough resources available to get updated. There are different levels of evidence available for drug efficacy and cow’s excreta does not find a place in any of them.

  • I didn’t much like your article, mostly because of its style and its emotional propaganda. I believe that this article reflects your honest opinion and that you yourself; your friends and colleagues have probably laughed at the stupidity of people drinking urine and expecting healing effects.

    It is worth to note that the major component of amniotic fluid is urine, so we have all been floating in the stuff for 9 months. It can therefore hardly be harmful to the human being.

    When scores of cultures throughout the world’s history have promoted urine therapy for healing, could it mean that there is something REAL behind all of those claims?

    Medical companies extract proteins and other components of human urine using them in beauty creams and medicine; is that just coincidence?

    Or maybe modern medical industry is just capitalizing on an old knowledge using innocent do-gooders like the yourself to propagate their propaganda.

    Have more faith in yourself and your own culture, everything that comes from the west is not gold, and many Indians might be poor and uneducated, but you still have the largest unbroken body of knowledge about the human being, in the world. Trust in the thousands of years of tradition that you own, and use science to tell you where that ground is solid and where it has been spoiled by dogma.

    The mistake is to take the arrogant western approach and assume that only our way of looking understanding and recording reality is valid.

    • Your comment apparently exhibits your honest opinion too. I sincerely believe you do not see the flaws in your argument, so here we go:

      Para 2: firstly, amniotic fluid is NOT the same thing as urine.
      http://www.nature.com/jp/journal/v25/n5/full/7211290a.html
      Moreover even if we agree that something is not harmful, we don’t use it as medicine.

      Para 3: Arguments from antiquity? Really? Just open any page on this website to find out why ancient things are not necessarily good for us.

      Para 4: Yes, proteins are used in medicines because they are a fundamental part of living cells, including the discarded ones. So waste is occasionally a good source for proteins, as you say. BUT, one useful component – even a hundred- do not negate potentially harmful or downright redundant ones.

      Para 5: a conspiracy theory. Sigh. Big pharmaceutical companies make drugs which save lives on a gigantic scale. If that is their conspiracy, I’m all with them.

      Para 6 and 7:I agree: there are many things in our culture to be proud of. It is indeed humbling to know that we are the part of a culture which can justly call itself ancient. However, tradition cannot explicitly dictate the present. We have to prune out the pointless and detrimental knowledge to ensure progress. Our ancestors, who lacked most of the information about diseases, tried the best they could with what they had. Our current medicines are, without argument, superior to ancient remedies.
      Furthermore, and this is most important, what you call the “western approach” is the scientific method, which is not only intellectually satisfying but also actually demonstrable. Since you haven’t offered another method of knowing things, I’m at a loss to say any more.

      If you do not have the patience to read, just count the number of people healed by urine. Then compare this with the number people healed by “western approach” and “modern medical industry”. Do the math and reach your own conclusions.

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